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37 Comments
VoiceOfReason
12/31/2011 04:57:37 pm
Thank you for putting up this site.
Hannah
1/4/2012 01:36:35 am
Photo #12 shows two horses. The black horse on the left clearly shows the mane of the horse has just been combed. They look totally normal and healthy. Combing a horses mane is not essential to their health yet it was certainly done as the photo shows. No neglect or cruelty here.
TW
1/1/2012 01:00:56 am
well done!this needs togo viral- this WILL be a precedent setting case- both in Washington State AND for the rest of the country, especially since AR groups are pretty much standardizing all animal and ag laws The RIGHT to choose our lifestyle comes under the Constitution, and NO GROUP has the right to remove that from us.
The Scarlet Pimpernel
1/1/2012 02:24:28 am
Appears to me these people's only "crime" was having an ugly property (indeed one of the comments on a news site mentions that the complaint was in revenge for being an eyesore). How does that translate to poor care of their animals? All the animals are in plush well-fed and well-groomed condition. Note especially the cocker spaniel dog -- plump and well-groomed.
Alisheeba
1/1/2012 03:05:16 am
Unbelievable oversteppiong of the law in this case. Every single one of those animals where in good flesh condition with no signs of illness. Shame on those Olalla, WA officials. What happened to this being a free country, instead we are being ruled by domestic terrorists masqurading as "animal welfare agents". 1/1/2012 09:54:43 am
I have never seen such a blatant disregard for the law, or the rights and feelings of the owners. The self-righteousness and smug satisfaction of the vet and one of the others who made statements tells us everything we need to know about the intent of this organization: profit! I hope the owners get some of their animals back intact. In any case, they should sue the so-called rescur group and all of the individuals involved in this raid for both the monetary value of the animals and the emotional stress (using the recent law passed in Texas as precedent.) I will be making a donation towards their legal fees.
Call me mad
1/1/2012 10:15:02 am
It's all about money. So-called humane society's are seeing donations dwindle as disposable income decreases in a hellish economy. As a result, many desperate organizations have taken to essentially stealing people's animals to adopt them out and collect adoption fees in order to stay afloat; in truth, such unscrupulous organizations--whose services are to be considered less and less vital the more bizarre their behaviors become--are on welfare, getting something for adding little value to anyone's life, least of all animals, but no one calls them on it. Until and unless animal owners put together a class-action lawsuit against such violations of our basic rights (life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness), this lawlessness will continue. As one leader of an ANIMAL WELFARE--not to be confused with animal rights--group has so wisely observed, "Animal rights is mental illness masquerading as philosophy." It's time the insanity be brought to a screeching halt. BTW, "best practices" for all sorts of animal raising may be found on the Internet; volumes have been written.
Truth Seeker
1/1/2012 09:55:49 pm
It is all about a social movement that came across the pond from England 1800s. It has morphed into people (AR organizations) putting human feelings and actions into animals. This is how a movement has been carried out, along with shaming anyone who breeds and animal for profit or farms raising animals or engages in selling pets of any type.
HelgaV
1/2/2012 02:43:43 am
This case is outrageous and extremely scary. The Human Society has turned into a kind of terrorist organization against small farmers.
leftieomnivore
1/2/2012 02:45:44 am
...rest assured this is not just a 'capitalism' or 'conservative' issue; it is one of the direct need to choose health for onesself. Food security is a corporate control issue for many of us left-of-center types who are also working to resist corruption when profit interests trump public security....
EAW
1/2/2012 05:07:57 am
Might be interesting, in your vet-care poll, to get a sense of the level of farming done by the people responding - part time, hobby, feeding family only, main/primary family income, for instance, and what kind of livestock people keep. People who keep hobby farms might have a different response than people who make their living from the livestock. You might also want to reach out to other farming organizations in the PNW area, particularly if you intend to use this poll as any sort of support for the Baileys.
gypsyrose
1/2/2012 05:57:18 am
Speaking as a person who has owned horses since 1976, it is common knowledge that giving a horse 24 hour access to feed is the fastest way to kill it. My horses are fed grain 2x/day in accordance to their needs. Some are easy keepers and some are hard keepers even with the same level of work. We also give hay about 3x/day since the pasture is mostly bare right now, and I have several horses that are actually overweight.
gypsyrose
1/2/2012 07:42:31 am
I just looked at the pics of the property and animals taken. I saw NOTHING wrong with any of the animals pictured. Were they the worst ones? It really seems that the only reason for stealing those animals was that someone didn't like the way the property looked. I've learned over the years to ignore the condition of the property as long as the animals there are healthy and happy. I'd rather be at a run down barn with happy livestock than at a beautiful barn that hides the abuses.
DLD
1/2/2012 12:08:58 pm
The only abuse that I could see was in picture #6 out of the first set of picture on the Photos page.
Kim M
1/4/2012 11:31:46 am
DLD - I completely agree - hold a rabbit by the scruff is very rough handling! It will break the connective tissue / blood vessels and cause brusing sub Q.
Julie
1/3/2012 01:32:41 pm
You all have done a great job, I am so sorry I could not be there today, but will be contributing funds, and will plan to be there on the 11th.
acs38
1/3/2012 03:54:57 pm
Shame on those neighbors!
Kim M
1/4/2012 12:03:00 pm
you will notice the Van was well stocked with lab animal cages - a roof rack for all of the additional crates and of course all of the volunteers. this was a very well funded attack. they even alerted all of the local news media. I wonder how many of the reporters actually looked at the animals?? I know some of the vets - if they were not directly attached to the seizure - had to be saying to themselves "what the hell????" because I only saw one photo that showed a lightly stained broken white rabbit. THAT was the extent of the abuse I could see. well - other than the volunteer man handling the poor rabbit. THAT was abuse. My biggest issue becomes ... how are they cared for NOW???? most Humane facilites are a JOKE! the neither have adaquate facilities or cages for the species they seize. I would be visiting the housing and taking LOTS of vidio!!!! AND - rabbits are especially sensitive to stress, feed changes and their surroundings. How many of them will die while housed (like the chicken and the ? that already did).
Jennifer T
1/6/2012 12:12:02 pm
As a trained veterinary technician and former shelter kennel manage, I do not see a single animal that is in need of seizure for its own good. Every animal there is clean, well-fed, and well groomed. One glaringly obvious fact here is the hoof care on the horses. Uncared for horses almost always have neglected hooves. These horses' feet look trimmed and healthy. The only thing I can think of to charge these folks with is poor carpentry skills. So they built with materials they could salvage and repurpose. Big deal. Some would give them a medal for being 'green'.
JenniferT
1/6/2012 12:29:54 pm
It may be very important to inform the lawyers in this case about the one in Louisville. Have the lawyers read this.
DawnBirdsong
1/11/2012 02:55:29 am
The only thing I see here is a messy property. The animals all look well fed and cared for. That is the only thing the humane society should be concerned with. Even in the winter the alpacas were on a pasture with grass! There was lots of grass on the property too. Sadly, in this country, if something doesn't "look good" it doesn't matter if it actually "is good". I was especially sad to see the fat and well groomed elderly cocker being lifted up into an upper level cage. Being removed from it's family is very hard on a dog. Just like being removed from their territory is very hard on cats.
pink fox
1/14/2012 10:40:57 am
absolutly sickening that the so called animal WELFARE people would not only seie these obviosuly well cared for animals, but make up charges then proceede to skip ALL the rules and start sending them off to other organizations.
Well Versed
1/26/2012 10:21:12 am
I have raised goats for many years. Several generations of my family has raised them for many years as well. We have had horses and ponys in addition to other animals. It is extremely distressing that in "rescuing" goats and horses (among other animals) that didn't need rescuing what kind of harm was brought to them. ALL the photos I have seen show well cared for animals, in very good health.
When they robbed the Alpha Tex kennel in Texas, they killed a litter of puppies carelessly as the dam was giving birth. That is how much they actually care about the animals.
Terry
2/23/2012 12:09:47 pm
During the early part of this, The red Gold pheasant, and a couple other poultry were reported to have died, with the cause of death being "unknown". I worked for a while in Wildlife rehab, and loved working with the raptors-- One thing we learned early, as part of training-- never lay a bird on it's back. See, a birds lungs are not like ours. They are situated along the backbine (topside) of the bird-- they do not, in normal bird positions, experience ANY compression from the bird's body. They are made of a mass of very easily compressed Tissues, These tissues compress so easily, that by turning a bird on it's back, it will suffocate-- much in the same manner that a constrictor snake kills it's prey-- by preventing the intake of air, and exchange of oxygen. I am very willing to bet, after realizing that the chickens were examined ON THEIR BACKS (photos 11 & 12 in the KItsap Sun- KHS media photos) Combined with the stress of the seizure, and sunsequent mishandling, that the birds died from shock or a very quick case of pneumonia. So, Now who was being cruel, neglectful, and abusive?
EAW
2/26/2012 12:08:45 am
Terry - It is normal to examine birds by turning them over so that all parts of the bird can be examined. This is done all over the USA with birds every day of the year. Male birds typically stand on the backs of females while breeding them. Claiming that the people examining the birds killed them by turning them on their backs for a brief exam does not make sense.
Terry
2/26/2012 04:27:31 pm
While a male bird may "Stand" on the back of a female for breeding: one- it is only for a few seconds. and two, the weight of his body is NOT crushing her lungs!!
Terry
2/26/2012 04:27:45 pm
While a male bird may "Stand" on the back of a female for breeding: one- it is only for a few seconds. and two, the weight of his body is NOT crushing her lungs!! 6/5/2012 10:57:03 am
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